Frank, thanks for your thoughtful response. I understand your point about methodology. Although we want to discuss this topic in a race-neutral or color blind ways, language is limited and talking about people in their social group identities is necessary for transformative thinking and behavior. Because of the visibiity of race and all the associated social loadings, generalizations about racial groups based on critical mass data (behavioral science reserach) are necessary. There is no other way to talk about the reality of racism without talking about people in their racial group identities. I do not see that as claiming we are monolithic but rather just unraveling the paradox of diversity: we are all unique and like no one else; we are each like some people and unlike other people; we are each like all other people. In these discussions we are focusing on how we are each like some people and unlke other people. That doesn't mean the other truths of the paradox do not exist. Thanks for engaging.